Comments on: HTC Dream vs. Nokia E71 http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/ Faith, Technology and Randomness in Life, According to Scott Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:17:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-99432 trogdor Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:54:21 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-99432 Ahem..."not" in my previous reply should be "now". But still...nokia rules. As I said, amazing machines, and IMHO, the design is up to now still unparallelled. If I could someday find the double agenda/contacts software, that would make this machine 100% perfect. Ahem…”not” in my previous reply should be “now”.
But still…nokia rules. As I said, amazing machines, and IMHO, the design is up to now still unparallelled. If I could someday find the double agenda/contacts software, that would make this machine 100% perfect.

]]> By: Nokia Themes http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-99324 Nokia Themes Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:27 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-99324 Very detailed post, my appreciation for that. I will stay with Nokia anyway! They still rock it Very detailed post, my appreciation for that. I will stay with Nokia anyway! They still rock it

]]> By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-99230 trogdor Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:23:37 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-99230 They bought a bunch of the E71, and I think they're amazing machines. However, the dual agenda mode does not exist. The mode swith is just a gimmick and doesn't really add anything. I'm not looking for software that might allow me to manage two simultaneous, yet different agendas. They bought a bunch of the E71, and I think they’re amazing machines. However, the dual agenda mode does not exist. The mode swith is just a gimmick and doesn’t really add anything. I’m not looking for software that might allow me to manage two simultaneous, yet different agendas.

]]> By: robert http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-99201 robert Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:08:18 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-99201 So what answer did your work give you? So what answer did your work give you?

]]> By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98512 trogdor Wed, 27 May 2009 15:01:31 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98512 \(*_*)/ Not the answer I was hoping for, but hey, I'm getting one from my work, so why complain? Thanks for taking the time! \(*_*)/
Not the answer I was hoping for, but hey, I’m getting one from my work, so why complain?
Thanks for taking the time!

]]> By: Ben http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98504 Ben Tue, 26 May 2009 11:54:46 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98504 I know contacts can be filtered but the agenda/calendar cannot be sorted or filtered in that way. I think we finally got this question answered :-) Have a great day! I know contacts can be filtered but the agenda/calendar cannot be sorted or filtered in that way. I think we finally got this question answered :-) Have a great day!

]]> By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98490 trogdor Sat, 23 May 2009 20:43:44 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98490 Hey man, thanks for your time, but it's still not what Imeant :)-. I could simplfy my question to this: Can I have two separate agenda's and contact book son this device: one personal and one for work? Hey man, thanks for your time, but it’s still not what Imeant :)-.
I could simplfy my question to this: Can I have two separate agenda’s and contact book son this device: one personal and one for work?

]]> By: Ben http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98457 Ben Wed, 13 May 2009 15:21:47 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98457 I understand now... the sync software is typical in allowing you to setup two way syncronization or one way syncronization with each PC (using mobile or PC as "always keep"). The profile information for each computer can be unique to that computer and would allow you to update something on one PC, sync to update the mobile, and then have it update the other PC with that information. Here, I put three screen shots of the settings for sync up.. let me know if that helps to clarify things http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings1.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings2.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings3.jpg I understand now… the sync software is typical in allowing you to setup two way syncronization or one way syncronization with each PC (using mobile or PC as “always keep”). The profile information for each computer can be unique to that computer and would allow you to update something on one PC, sync to update the mobile, and then have it update the other PC with that information. Here, I put three screen shots of the settings for sync up.. let me know if that helps to clarify things

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings2.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/benito0525/settings3.jpg

]]> By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98455 trogdor Wed, 13 May 2009 14:51:04 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98455 Ok, I guess I wasn't specific enough...my bad. Would there be a problem if I did sync at home, and alter a sync at the office...i.o.w., would the two syncs conflict/overwrite/add? Greetzzz Ok, I guess I wasn’t specific enough…my bad.
Would there be a problem if I did sync at home, and alter a sync at the office…i.o.w., would the two syncs conflict/overwrite/add?

Greetzzz

]]> By: Ben http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98454 Ben Wed, 13 May 2009 13:28:38 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98454 @trogdor: I'm not sure about multiple address books but I know you can create and sort your contacts via groups so that should work for you. @trogdor: I’m not sure about multiple address books but I know you can create and sort your contacts via groups so that should work for you.

]]> By: trogdor http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98453 trogdor Wed, 13 May 2009 13:07:45 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98453 Does anyone know whether the Nokia supports multiple address books? (a personal one and one for work). If so, my decission is made. If not....what phone would support that? Thanks in advance. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on that Nokia! Does anyone know whether the Nokia supports multiple address books? (a personal one and one for work).
If so, my decission is made. If not….what phone would support that?

Thanks in advance.

Can’t wait to get my grubby hands on that Nokia!

]]> By: Milind Rao http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98450 Milind Rao Tue, 12 May 2009 21:32:22 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98450 Nice comparison. I don't have the E71. but a friend does. I love the G1. But E71's always available keyboard has a really big advantage as you pointed out above. When you are searching for apps, or searching through contacts, you have to rotate the phone and slide out the keyboard. The latest 1.5 release helps a bit with a soft keyboard, but it's no where near as efficient as a physical keyboard. And it only works if there's a Text Field. Having said that, You can cut down the steps to "dial a contact" to the fewer steps than on the E71 except for opening and closing the keyboard. If you open the keyboard and start typing, it will bring up the contacts matching the letters. Also to dial a number, you can just click on the phone icon on the desktop, you can start dialing immediately. In fact an application called SpellDial does an excellent job of using T9 to filter through contacts. Almost as fast as using the keyboard. I don't know how the contacts search works on the E71, but on my UIQ Sony Ericson P990, the search in contacts was awful! For an open phone, Google does make you jump through a few hoops. Not giving you root access. Not allowing you to install apps on the SD card. Not providing a SIP client on the phone. But all-in-all, it's easily the best phone I have ever had. Nice comparison. I don’t have the E71. but a friend does. I love the G1. But E71′s always available keyboard has a really big advantage as you pointed out above. When you are searching for apps, or searching through contacts, you have to rotate the phone and slide out the keyboard. The latest 1.5 release helps a bit with a soft keyboard, but it’s no where near as efficient as a physical keyboard. And it only works if there’s a Text Field.

Having said that,

You can cut down the steps to “dial a contact” to the fewer steps than on the E71 except for opening and closing the keyboard. If you open the keyboard and start typing, it will bring up the contacts matching the letters.

Also to dial a number, you can just click on the phone icon on the desktop, you can start dialing immediately. In fact an application called SpellDial does an excellent job of using T9 to filter through contacts. Almost as fast as using the keyboard. I don’t know how the contacts search works on the E71, but on my UIQ Sony Ericson P990, the search in contacts was awful!

For an open phone, Google does make you jump through a few hoops. Not giving you root access. Not allowing you to install apps on the SD card. Not providing a SIP client on the phone. But all-in-all, it’s easily the best phone I have ever had.

]]> By: SilentCrow http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98433 SilentCrow Sat, 09 May 2009 12:47:00 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98433 scotty - thx for the compare. I'm a WinMo 5-6.1 (moto q, backjack, moto q global) user for the last many years. Just got my E71. So far so good, though ive been quite disappointed with the heavy carrier (at&t)branding over the phone and apps. Not that the winmo phones didnt have that issue, i was at least able to uninstall them. - Do u know of a way to "unlock" the protected at&t apps so i can uninstall them with being told their locked? - Also i consider myself a pretty quick mini-keyboard typer... But i have run into the most annoying bug on the E71. (not that i wont find more)... But the keyboard / key-press timing is horrible. Quick example: whem typing i usually still have the last key pressed down as my fingers go for the next key to press. This works fine for 75% of the keys, but for whatever annoying reason if I'm typing a word that's within the "num-pad" area I cannot easily roll letters back2back. Like if type very quickly: apple ... No problems. now type: my .... fast. And you get just m. Granted I do "slur" my words whem typing... Maybe i just need to slow down? - Lastly... Outta the box my E71 had only an Exchange app and the crap-ass AT&T Xpress mail app. WHY no simple POP3 or IMAP client built-in. From Windows Mobile to Symbian... I hope to find at least some 3rd part apps to make this experience more enjoyable. Looking forward to the SSH app, RDP too though I cant imagine it to be usable via this tiny-screen. written from Nokia E71x keyboard. scotty – thx for the compare. I’m a WinMo 5-6.1 (moto q, backjack, moto q global) user for the last many years. Just got my E71. So far so good, though ive been quite disappointed with the heavy carrier (at&t)branding over the phone and apps. Not that the winmo phones didnt have that issue, i was at least able to uninstall them.
- Do u know of a way to “unlock” the protected at&t apps so i can uninstall them with being told their locked?
- Also i consider myself a pretty quick mini-keyboard typer… But i have run into the most annoying bug on the E71. (not that i wont find more)… But the keyboard / key-press timing is horrible. Quick example: whem typing i usually still have the last key pressed down as my fingers go for the next key to press.
This works fine for 75% of the keys, but for whatever annoying reason if I’m typing a word that’s within the “num-pad” area I cannot easily roll letters back2back. Like if type very quickly: apple … No problems. now type: my …. fast. And you get just m. Granted I do “slur” my words whem typing… Maybe i just need to slow down?
- Lastly… Outta the box my E71 had only an Exchange app and the crap-ass AT&T Xpress mail app. WHY no simple POP3 or IMAP client built-in.

From Windows Mobile to Symbian… I hope to find at least some 3rd part apps to make this experience more enjoyable. Looking forward to the SSH app, RDP too though I cant imagine it to be usable via this tiny-screen.

written from Nokia E71x keyboard.

]]> By: Adel http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-98409 Adel Tue, 05 May 2009 15:53:39 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-98409 Keep up the good work very nice job. I'd like to add that only one isues tease me with my E71 which is changing the writting language.As far i know it can be changed through the setting menu. Keep up the good work very nice job.
I’d like to add that only one isues tease me with my E71 which is changing the writting language.As far i know it can be changed through the setting menu.

]]> By: Ben http://scott.yang.id.au/2009/03/htc-dream-vs-nokia-e71/#comment-97783 Ben Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:18:14 +0000 http://scott.yang.id.au/?p=1893#comment-97783 I just wanted to correct one small item. If you have your contacts on the Nokia E71 (I sync with Outlook via PC Suite to device memory) you actually don't even need to go into the contacts to choose a contact. Just typing the partial name from the main screen will pop up a list of contacts who match those characters. Then you can either type to narrow the results or scroll up to pick the one you want. Also, I know this is not what you were going for but if you want apps for the Nokia phone I know handango has a lot of options. I just wanted to correct one small item. If you have your contacts on the Nokia E71 (I sync with Outlook via PC Suite to device memory) you actually don’t even need to go into the contacts to choose a contact. Just typing the partial name from the main screen will pop up a list of contacts who match those characters. Then you can either type to narrow the results or scroll up to pick the one you want.

Also, I know this is not what you were going for but if you want apps for the Nokia phone I know handango has a lot of options.

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