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		<title>By: Blog Yellek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leadership</title>
		<link>http://scott.yang.id.au/2005/07/leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-23859</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Yellek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Leadership &#124; sYp: &#8220;Is leadership a personality that was born with you, or is it something that can beacquired later on in life through study or training?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Leadership | sYp: &#8220;Is leadership a personality that was born with you, or is it something that can beacquired later on in life through study or training?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scotty</title>
		<link>http://scott.yang.id.au/2005/07/leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-21573</link>
		<dc:creator>scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arie,

Regarding the MYC illustration, I think it will only make sense if you go to the faculty ones (not the FOCUS ones), as you know the people in your group, but you rarely study Bible together previously. When you go with your FOCUS group, people alredy look up to the leaders in the group. But in a group where people don&#039;t really know each other, &quot;leaders&quot; are naturally elected, as they should.

Just somethings that I think people might &quot;miss out&quot; if they never go with their faculty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arie,</p>
<p>Regarding the MYC illustration, I think it will only make sense if you go to the faculty ones (not the FOCUS ones), as you know the people in your group, but you rarely study Bible together previously. When you go with your FOCUS group, people alredy look up to the leaders in the group. But in a group where people don&#8217;t really know each other, &#8220;leaders&#8221; are naturally elected, as they should.</p>
<p>Just somethings that I think people might &#8220;miss out&#8221; if they never go with their faculty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 08:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about the imputed and imparted bit.. that&#039;s rite, sometimes you can become leader, and trained as leader cos there is no one else available (or everyone is of equal quality) :) So, I spose you can pick and choose and train people to be leader regardless of their skills, but Not in terms of their godliness in life (this is a must..) Though the Original leadership skill of a person WILL help significantly..

MYC ilustration is also interesting, cos in the bible study where everyone doesn&#039;t want to say something, usually the regular bible study leader will start something.. and the whole group automatically follows. Not necessarily showing anything in terms of leadership.. :(

Personality wise, some ppl is MORE comfortable to lead or NOT to lead.. but all can be trained.. I spose..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about the imputed and imparted bit.. that&#8217;s rite, sometimes you can become leader, and trained as leader cos there is no one else available (or everyone is of equal quality) :) So, I spose you can pick and choose and train people to be leader regardless of their skills, but Not in terms of their godliness in life (this is a must..) Though the Original leadership skill of a person WILL help significantly..</p>
<p>MYC ilustration is also interesting, cos in the bible study where everyone doesn&#8217;t want to say something, usually the regular bible study leader will start something.. and the whole group automatically follows. Not necessarily showing anything in terms of leadership.. :(</p>
<p>Personality wise, some ppl is MORE comfortable to lead or NOT to lead.. but all can be trained.. I spose..</p>
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		<title>By: xsoteria</title>
		<link>http://scott.yang.id.au/2005/07/leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-21553</link>
		<dc:creator>xsoteria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 02:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think leadership is the ability to influence others, which is a complicated thing involves character, credibility, knowledge, communication skill, and relationship. Hence it can be acquired by improving these things.

Along with leadERship, I think there is also leadEDship, which is the ability of someone to be influenced by others. Higher leadERships is required for lower leadEDship.

From my experience, majority of Chinese people I know, including myself, tend to have lower leadEDship. Not necessarily a bad thing. We all want to be king, or at least some sort of mini-boss, that makes us hard to be lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think leadership is the ability to influence others, which is a complicated thing involves character, credibility, knowledge, communication skill, and relationship. Hence it can be acquired by improving these things.</p>
<p>Along with leadERship, I think there is also leadEDship, which is the ability of someone to be influenced by others. Higher leadERships is required for lower leadEDship.</p>
<p>From my experience, majority of Chinese people I know, including myself, tend to have lower leadEDship. Not necessarily a bad thing. We all want to be king, or at least some sort of mini-boss, that makes us hard to be lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kelley</title>
		<link>http://scott.yang.id.au/2005/07/leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-21546</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno if my trackback worked so here is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.users.on.net/~yellek/archive/2005_07_01_blogarchive.html#112229567155983270&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Yellek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog Yellek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Leadership&lt;/strong&gt;

Definitely something that can be learned.</description>
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<p>Definitely something that can be learned.</p>
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		<title>By: timhu</title>
		<link>http://scott.yang.id.au/2005/07/leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-21502</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think leadership is both natural and acquired, at least for the sort of leadership we are talking about - i.e. as part of God&#039;s people. as we naturally become more like our Lord Jesus Christ, the willingness to lay down our lives becomes more prominent, which is the hallmark of leadership as Jesus described. but also, as this super-natural (God&#039;s work) process is working, so leadership can be acquired from circumstances (e.g. what does my congregation need that i can fulfill) and from people (i.e. from other Christian models).

furthermore, i think another dimension to leadership is imparted and imputed. (i can&#039;t think of other words this early =D). by imparted, i mean that its what others declare you to be in leadership. by imputed, i mean that there are qualities inherent in oneself that warrants leadership (i.e. a life of service which others are willing to follow). i think in any scenario, imparted and imputed are both needed for effective leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think leadership is both natural and acquired, at least for the sort of leadership we are talking about &#8211; i.e. as part of God&#8217;s people. as we naturally become more like our Lord Jesus Christ, the willingness to lay down our lives becomes more prominent, which is the hallmark of leadership as Jesus described. but also, as this super-natural (God&#8217;s work) process is working, so leadership can be acquired from circumstances (e.g. what does my congregation need that i can fulfill) and from people (i.e. from other Christian models).</p>
<p>furthermore, i think another dimension to leadership is imparted and imputed. (i can&#8217;t think of other words this early =D). by imparted, i mean that its what others declare you to be in leadership. by imputed, i mean that there are qualities inherent in oneself that warrants leadership (i.e. a life of service which others are willing to follow). i think in any scenario, imparted and imputed are both needed for effective leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: CmdrData</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a firm believer (an example) that leadership can be an acquired trait.  I had a rather frustrating high school (doesn&#039;t everyone?) and made up my mind that college would be different.  I had an opportunity between 11th and 12th grades to attend a pre-college program.  This would be a group of 50+ kids who had never met before and, before going, I decided to pretend I was &#039;cool&#039; and go4it.  It worked out pretty well as I was asked to M.C. the closing program at the end of 4 week session.  
So I slinked back to high school, somewhat changed, but with a lot of baggage.  When I went back to the same college for my degree, several students from that program were there and I was elected to a position freshman year and it took off from there.  Not a stellar collegiate career, but a solid one.
I&#039;ve continued to use this gift of leadership in my church and work life, serving as an officer in my congregation for the past 28 years. (Can it really be that many?) 
So yes, taking on the role of a leader can be acquired - it only takes some courage and the right opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a firm believer (an example) that leadership can be an acquired trait.  I had a rather frustrating high school (doesn&#8217;t everyone?) and made up my mind that college would be different.  I had an opportunity between 11th and 12th grades to attend a pre-college program.  This would be a group of 50+ kids who had never met before and, before going, I decided to pretend I was &#8216;cool&#8217; and go4it.  It worked out pretty well as I was asked to M.C. the closing program at the end of 4 week session.<br />
So I slinked back to high school, somewhat changed, but with a lot of baggage.  When I went back to the same college for my degree, several students from that program were there and I was elected to a position freshman year and it took off from there.  Not a stellar collegiate career, but a solid one.<br />
I&#8217;ve continued to use this gift of leadership in my church and work life, serving as an officer in my congregation for the past 28 years. (Can it really be that many?)<br />
So yes, taking on the role of a leader can be acquired &#8211; it only takes some courage and the right opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: scotty</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is leadership and charisma two different things? Otherwise, how do you define leadership then?

In my opinion, leadership often involves with being up front. You might be a great engineer that makes stuff works, but that does not make you a leader. You might be a strategist that can plan your, your allies&#039; and your enemies&#039; next one hundred moves, but that does not make you a leader. A leader is someone you look up to when you need directions, when you are lost and confused, when you have no idea where the train is going. One can lead because he/she has that magic dust which makes his/her followers willing to follow. A leader is someone who has confidence in all circumstances, where his/her followers&#039; trust can be rested.

No comment on your examples though. I am pathetic. I can&#039;t lead.

But back to my example, I do not think &quot;having no chance&quot; is a valid excuse for not being initiative. There are plenty of oppotunities. Everywhere. All the time. Besides, girls will not &quot;always do a lot of stuff&quot;, if they know that there will be people taking initiative.

MYC bible study is one interesting arena to observe. Five, six guys that might not know each other well (does not apply to FOCUS). A set of questions. Bible passage, and &lt;strong&gt;no set leader&lt;/strong&gt;!! However, usually it only takes 30 minutes to make leadership obvious. Out of many MYC that I have been to, someone, who takes initiative, responsibility, and pushes the small group along to complete the task, always grabs the role of leadership before the end of the first study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is leadership and charisma two different things? Otherwise, how do you define leadership then?</p>
<p>In my opinion, leadership often involves with being up front. You might be a great engineer that makes stuff works, but that does not make you a leader. You might be a strategist that can plan your, your allies&#8217; and your enemies&#8217; next one hundred moves, but that does not make you a leader. A leader is someone you look up to when you need directions, when you are lost and confused, when you have no idea where the train is going. One can lead because he/she has that magic dust which makes his/her followers willing to follow. A leader is someone who has confidence in all circumstances, where his/her followers&#8217; trust can be rested.</p>
<p>No comment on your examples though. I am pathetic. I can&#8217;t lead.</p>
<p>But back to my example, I do not think &#8220;having no chance&#8221; is a valid excuse for not being initiative. There are plenty of oppotunities. Everywhere. All the time. Besides, girls will not &#8220;always do a lot of stuff&#8221;, if they know that there will be people taking initiative.</p>
<p>MYC bible study is one interesting arena to observe. Five, six guys that might not know each other well (does not apply to FOCUS). A set of questions. Bible passage, and <strong>no set leader</strong>!! However, usually it only takes 30 minutes to make leadership obvious. Out of many MYC that I have been to, someone, who takes initiative, responsibility, and pushes the small group along to complete the task, always grabs the role of leadership before the end of the first study.</p>
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